Anthropic has reportedly lobbied religious leaders and the Pope on whether Claude might be conscious, sparking a heated debate on the All-In Podcast. The besties also tackle OpenAI's math breakthroughs, France's riots, and whether AI is making IP worthless. Anthropic reportedly hosted sessions with about 20 religious leaders and philosophers under NDA to discuss Claude's potential consciousness and moral status. OpenAI released over 700 math papers, with about 370 claiming to solve or advance major problems, each produced in roughly three hours of compute. The hosts argue that math and coding progress fastest because results can be verified automatically, unlike subjective fields such as law. France's protests stem from civil service pay rising only 5% since 2017 while prices rose about 20%, and its 10-year bond yield topped 5%.